All of the attempts by pro-choice folks are not as much for free choice as they are attempts to heal your collective and individual guilt and conscience. Many of the same folks that crusade for the rights of animals are all for abortion. A good friend of mine divorced his wife because she decided at the last minute to get an abortion. Although he tried everything to stop it, he had no rights under the law and his actions resulted in a restraining order against him. To make a long story short, she was successful in the murder of his PLANNED daughter.

Abortion is legal and cannot be denied at this time. Too bad.

I lead a platoon that deployed to Iraq. There were nine women in my platoon with two of them being married. Just before deployment, four of the nine got pregnant: One married, and three single. We deployed without them and learned that shortly thereafter all three of the single soldiers got abortions. This fact could not be hidden from our command for long and they were prosecuted not for getting abortions, but for intent to undermine the readiness of the unit.

I find that a lot of men out there that support abortion really could care less about the rights of women. On the contrary, there interests are self serving. What they are really interested in is that they no longer need to be held accountable. Sounds great right? All the sex you want with as many partners as you want and no accountability. Women become nothing more than sexual conquests in the minds of many men. Just another pleasure toy.

I would say that it is not to be expected that the woman a young man decides to marry is a virgin. Most likely some other young man has already been there. That special moment of marriage is not so special anymore as the consummation of the marriage is cheapened. Any woman that would even consider saving her virginity for marriage is considered a prude and an outcast by there peers. Is this what we consider socially positive evolution?

Thanks to abortion, men have an easy way out of any commitment and both sexes are now free to be as promiscuous as they want from very young ages. STD’s among our youth is gong through the roof.

In my opinion the evidence is clear: Abortion facilitates this behavior. The percentage of abortions performed because of rape and incest is insignificant when compared to those performed for convenience. You can hide your head in the sand but the fact remains that abortion’s primary use is just a form a birth control that allows men and women to no longer be accountable.

Abortion facilitates rape and incest.

An internet predator grooms an underage girl and they eventually have sex. She gets pregnant and off they go to the Planned Parenthood abortion mill.

Same scenario for the father, uncle cousin or brother that commits incest.

So is this fact or fiction? Has it happened and how prevalent is the scenario described? Decide for yourself:

http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2009/03/planned_parenth_49.html

The morally corrupt in our society will use sophistry to support defend the indefensible and intentionally mislead.

We fight for trees.
We fight for animals.
Who is fighting for our children and our species?

Now for the statistics:

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/abreasons.html

Pretty damning stuff.

The bottom line is very logical:

http://8e.devbio.com/article.php?id=162

1. When life begins is hotly contested by reputable scientists and philosophers.

2. Being that the jury is still out on the issue we cannot proceed with abortion rights and should err on the side of life.

Because we live in the United States there is this thing we have called the Constitution and Bill of Rights. We are a country of guaranteed individual rights and since it is not only the woman to be considered but that of a child as well, then the support for abortion weakens to the point of being indefensible when considered in this context because the beginning of life is still not in agreement among our greatest scientists and philosophers. Since we are debating life here, the decision should be in in support of life.

This is horrific and I can’t believe it is legal:

Intact D&E
Usually, preliminary procedures are performed over a period of two to three days, to gradually dilate the cervix using laminaria tents (sticks of seaweed which absorb fluid and swell). Sometimes drugs such as pitocin, a synthetic form of oxytocin, are used to induce labor. Once the cervix is sufficiently dilated, the doctor uses an ultrasound and forceps to grasp the fetus’ leg. The fetus is turned to a breech position, if necessary, and the doctor pulls one or both legs out of the birth canal, causing what is referred to by some people as the ‘partial birth’ of the fetus. The doctor subsequently extracts the rest of the fetus, usually without the aid of forceps, leaving only the head still inside the birth canal. An incision is made at the base of the skull, a blunt dissector (such as a Kelly clamp) is inserted into the incision and opened to widen the opening,[8] and then a suction catheter is inserted into the opening. The brain is suctioned out, which causes the skull to collapse and allows the fetus to pass more easily through the birth canal. The placenta is removed and the uterine wall is vacuum aspirated using a cannula.[9]

Since the PETA folks force us to confront how we treat animals, then turnabout is fair play regarding the horrific abortion procedures.

If you believe in God, I would not want to be in your shoes on judgment day.

Abortion “has everything to do with power and who has it.” It is the ultimate form of child abuse, domestic terror, and lethal form of age discrimination. It represents a mindset that values convenience rather than civil rights of all humanity.

Abortion allows men to use women for sexual services without any commitment, discard them when an unexpected pregnancy arises, dump them out at the abortion clinic, and then go on to their next conquest, yet you some how call this “empowerment”????

Every dictator—Stalin, Ceaucescu, Hilter and slave holders throughout history, have oppressed the weak, maligned the most basic dignity of our fellow human beings, and killed just because they could. Just because killing unborn human beings is legal, does not make it right, any more than slavery was once legal, but so terribly wrong.

The new generation of younger, Neofeminists believe women deserve better than abortion and do all we can to help women choose LIFE, providing whatever our sisters may need, while aging neanderfems still defend a woman’s right to cruelly kill her own child through all nine months of pregnancy. A baby can live outside its mother’s womb at 22 weeks and “termination” involves a very painful and cruel dismembering of this baby, bloody limb by gruesome limb.

Abortion is a complex social and economic undertaking that affects a woman’s economic, social, sexual, and emotional life, and the life of her family and her community, this undertaking cannot be decided by a medical doctor who is weighing it from the point of view of self-indulgent reasoning. This makes the woman an “object” and it dismisses the scientific knowledge about her own body and the undeniable and separate life of her unborn female (or male) child. Instead of enhancing a woman’s dignity and self-respect, abortion belittles and disempowers her.

Abortion reflects a mindset that women must kill to make themselves powerful, that killing will somehow be good for their families and society; that killing is good for a family and a community and a society or even a woman’s own health.

The strategy of the pro-killing-of-innocent-human-beings sees nothing wrong on waging an incremental assault on anyone who is “imperfect”, “inconvenient”, voiceless, and therefore unable to defend herself, in a long-term effort to win the hearts and minds of the American public.

If you are still anti-war, Jane, then when will you open your eyes to this war in the womb, hurting nearly 4,000 women every day, while killing over a million human lives every year?

True feminists believe women deserve better choices than killing their unborn child.

Abortion isn’t a simple issue in that yes, there are extenuating circumstances. But, do not forget, there is such a thing as personal responsibility. Abortion should never be used as “birth control.” Anyone alluding to the need to have access to birth control, well, it is easily and readily available.

But responsiblity first begins with being a parent – if parents do their job, discuss this with their sons and daugthers so that they first have the intelligence and self-esteem needed to go through the teen years and make smart decisions, it is a good start to make the needed change on the reliance of abortion as birth control. I have yet to know one person who has had an abortion for any other reason than they made poor choices and didn’t want to deal with the consequence.

Further, I have yet to meet a teen that is mature and responsible enough to have sex and deal with the consequences of a pregnancy. What’s wrong with advocating responsibiliy, even abstinence. This country is first failing as parents by not preparing their children; second, failing by allowing the responsibility to be taken over by the government and third failing by not holding individuals accountable for their own actions.

There is a lot of gray in between, but I beg people to FIRST be a parent that educates their children long before they are faced with these decisions of peer pressrue and teen sex. Our best defense is empowering children to make the right choices, responsible choices and build their self-esteem. Sex even without pregnancy has consequences for a teen. Abortion has even greater consequences. And yes, I am a parent of two young women who were educated and empowered to know what was right for them.

I came to know you and admire you as a teen in the ’70s when you were making some of the best movies ever made and were deep seated in the political tapestry, as well.

I worked at a movie theater so I saw every one of your movies, time and time again, and relished them. That also enabled me to work the Hollywood premiere of the China Syndrome. Not long after that, you made a fundraising appearance at a theater in Fullerton after a showing of Klute. You were going to give a speech on Tom’s Campaign for Democracy. Beforehand you signed autographs. I brought my program from the China Syndrome premiere and you signed it. You liked my name.

After the movie, you came out and sat on the stage to applause. As you began to speak, a group of hecklers stood up and would not let you get a word out of your mouth. I was so angry. Me and other shouted at them to stop. They did not. You finally gave up and left, walking up the aisle on my side of the theater as the crowd got kinda crazy. I was on the end and stood up and thrust out my hand to you. In all the chaos, you were kind enough to stop and shake it while I apologized for the behavior of others. It was one of the best days of my life. Since then I’ve continued to combat the fixated and very narrow minded beliefs of the people who still call you Hanoi Jane – friends of my parents, uncles, VFW veterans, superiors…..ironically, some of the same people who demonized the troops when they came home from that awful war. The same people who get out of their easy chair to vote just to make sure someone like me doesn’t get the right to marry. The same people who still don’t think women deserve to make decisions about their own bodies.

I spent 22 years in the military, enduring my own issues as not only a female, but a gay person. I know what it is like to keep your head above water in a white male dominated arena. One day about 7 years ago, my uncle, a retired USAF helicopter pilot who served in NAM, sent me an email that had been forwarded a hundred times. It was a petition in an attempt to cancel an award some organization was giving you. They said you didn’t deserve it because you were a traitor. I was appalled. I fished through the hundreds of email addresses on it to find the originator – who was a Navy Master Chief (E-9), and I lambasted him. I asked him if he’d ever done anything back when he was a lowly Seaman (E-3) that he may not be proud of now. I asked him why, when someone goes up for Chief we purposely do not peek below E-4 in their records, since people grow and mature. I asked him if in all the years he’d been in the Navy, he hadn’t come to realize that people deserve a second chance and that they can grow from their mistakes, especially knowing they often make a greater good of their lives. I copied my uncle. Neither one of them responded, but I never heard another peep or saw another email like that. It felt good to admonish him.

When I was a teenager, I truly believed Coming Home would pacify these people. To me, it was your love letter, your sincerest apology written on the best stationary, with the perfect pen. How wrong I was. There are some people who will just never get it. They are so ignorant – they are full of their own faults but only find fault in others. They hold on to things and throw hate at others because they have nothing else that matters in their own lives. I don’t feel sorry or even pity for them, I feel angst, because they are the ones with the power as you discuss above. These ignorant people still wield the great power and the rest of us suffer the consequences.

I still admire you so much and can’t imagine what its been like to have this section of the nation treat you with such contempt for most of your life. I’m just glad you’ve stayed your course, and kept feeding us with the best you have.

Thank you, Jane Fonda, for being Jane Fonda, and for finding yet another medium to reach out to the rest of us with. You are an inspiration to the many of us who can think for ourselves, who do come from a place of love, and understand that we all need to swallow a dose of humility every day, to stay sane and alive.

Abortion is a racist procedure–while only 14 percent of the American population is black, almost 40 % of abortions are performed on black women and kill black babies. With over 50 million abortions now performed since Roe v Wade, that is one black baby murdered for every two black people in this country. Abortion is also a sexist procedure–most abortionists won’t “help” a woman unless she has the cash for the procedure, and then won’t be available to take care of the complications. Believe me–I have seen far too many women who have had problems after an abortion and they can’t get the people at Planned Parenthood to call them back. In countries like India and China, where women are considered second class citizens, it is now illegal for a woman to be told the gender of her child at the time of her prenatal ultrasound since far too many people choose to abort female babies. These are facts that you cannot deny–but I am sure it will be interesting to see how you try to spin them.

The hypocrisy of those groups that protest, lobby, and murder doctors in the name of protecting the unborn remains one of the filthiest elements of our society. Our churches do little to care for the needs of the living children unless they conform to the expectations of that religion….which is power at its most disgusting level. Try getting help from a church without being bombarded with religious sanctimony and handouts on salvation.

Attempting to wield power over the very private and personal right of a woman (who 9 times out of 10 provides the majority of care for that child) to decide what goes in and what comes out of her womb is tantamount to a dictatorship regime that I want no part of.

I firmly believe that the partriachal society in which we live cannot let go of this abortion issue because they fear a lack of control. Because it’s such a personal and intimate issue, the powers that be prey upon the insecurity of a woman to do what is best for her. That insecurity stems from a life filled with religious doctrine telling her she is less than a man, societal stereotypes that place unrealistic expectations on how to look, live, dress, work and care for children, and a lifetime of inequality in the home, workplace, communities, and religious organizations.

The latest proof of this mindset stems from the whining taking place in the educational community because women have now overtaken men as qualified applicants enrolled in higher education. There are now more women with better qualifications attending universities and colleges than men, and that scares them…because knowledge is power, and power is the ultimate weapon.

I agree with you that women should have a choice, as I am prochoice. I disagree with you on the reason that China forces abortion. It is for population control. In all reality, abortions are a form of population control. Margaret Sanger was actually against abortion, but for population control of those she considered not worthy to breed. She believed in eugenics and forced sterilizations. Sanger found a way to make birth control popular and that was through women’s rights. I don’t disagree with that aspect, as it did free women to do more things in life.

But what we have to realize, the real reason for abortion is population control. John Holdren, our science czar, believes that at some point we may have to force abortions or sterilizations if our population becomes too large or a threat to the earth.

He wrote in 1977 in the book Ecoscience:

“Indeed, it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society. Few today consider the situation in the United States serious enough to justify compulsion, however.”

Now granted, that was written in 1977, but in 2001 he wrote a paper stating that population needs to be controlled due to global warming and now here we are in 2009 in a situation where our president may sign a treaty with the UN to bring carbon emissions under control. If you read headlines worldwide, you will see many government officials worldwide saying something has to be done about population. Just google population control and global warming and see what you come up with. Thirty-two years after Holdren wrote his book, his “crisis” is now here. He has already written the plans on how to control population.

Here is a letter I found written by a Roe V. Wade lawyer to then President-elect Clinton. The letter doesn’t really sound like he cares about women’s choices, but more about controlling populations.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2006_docs/WeddingtontoClintondocs.pdf

Do you trust that our government will not use global warming as a “crisis” to take away the choice of women? Do you trust our government to take over healthcare and make decisions for our bodies?

If you truly believe this a women’s choice issue, then you need to fight the fight and get government out of the way. Abortion is legal. I don’t believe that will ever change, but if the government takes over our healthcare and conveniently has a global warming “crisis” what makes you think they won’t take away our choices?

Yes – and it’s a big problem that feminism is becoming polarized over the “sexuality” aspect as it simultaneously tries to organize for the “reproductive” aspect. That schizm is a huge obstacle in the way of real freedom and real power.