ABOUT MY FAITH

I am frequently asked about my faith. At the end of my marriage to Ted Turner I became a Christian. For several years prior, I had begun to feel I was being lead. I felt a presence, a reverence humming within me. It was and is difficult to articulate.

Today I think I know what was happening: I was becoming embodied, whole. I had spent 60 years dis-embodied, trying to be perfect so I could be loved. You can’t be whole if you’re trying to be perfect. Now, as I entered my sixth decade and with much work, I could feel myself becoming whole and I knew: This is what God is. I was stunned when I read in William Bridges’s The Way of Transition, that in Matthew 5:48 when Jesus tells his disciples, “You, therefore, must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect,” it was a mistranslation of the Greek adjective teleios which actually means “whole, fully formed, fully developed.” Jesus wasn’t telling his disciples to be perfect like God, he was telling them to be whole, like God.

This is what the third step of Alcoholics Anonymous 12 Step Program means. It says we need to give ourselves over to our higher power, become whole (which addicts aren’t) by welcoming the Holy Spirit into our innermost selves.

I began looking for a container to house this fledgling feeling of reverence. Having grown up an atheist I had almost no experience of church and had never read the Bible but I had dear friends in my home-state of Georgia who found comfort and inspiration in their church community and they offered to open this world to me and “bring me to Christ.” Perhaps this would be the container I was seeking.

Unfortunately, my very private, tentative step into religion became a loud public misconception. A small- minded person, knowing about my quest, did an interview on a national website without my permission and said that, because of him, I had become a Born Again Christian. I had no intention of going public about my spiritual journey and in no way wanted to be tagged with the fundamentalism that Born-Again Christianity has come to be associated with. I found myself having to defend my action before I was entirely sure what it meant. I did feel reborn, I couldn’t deny that, but it had nothing to do with the perceived doctrines of fundamentalist Christianity.

Over the months, I went to Bible study every week, had it interpreted for me by biblical literalists, did my homework faithfully but, as time went on, I felt myself losing the very thing that had called me from within: Spirit. The literalness with which I was expected to read and interpret the Bible seemed to simplify and flatten out what I wanted to experience as metaphor. Christianity was beginning to feel shrunken, freeze-dried. Words like ‘Thou Shalt,’ ‘Salvation,” ‘Lord,’ and ‘Repentance,’ drowned out one of my favorite Sufi poems by Hafiz:

Every
Child
Has known God,
Not the God of names,
Nor the God of don’ts,
Nor the God who never does
Anything weird,
But the God who knows only four words
And keeps repeating them, saying:
“Come dance with Me.”
Come
Dance.

As I diligently slogged away in my weekly bible class, doing the homework and studying the charts, I began to notice that the dance was gone. Try to render it literal, concrete, and it dies. I had started my journey with a powerful sense of the divine presence, but the linear approach seemed too rigid to contain this and I began to get scared: What had I gotten myself into?

I had met some inspiring, extraordinary Christians, but there were others that came at me, fingers pointing in my face, demanding to know my position on this or that and if I could not say certain key words like “died for our sins,” it meant I wasn’t a Christian.

I winced when God was spoken of as a man. God is beyond gender, beyond being, and although gendering God as “Him” may not seem consequential to many, I think it belies the nonbeingness of the Divine. Seeing God as “Him” only serves to reinforce the belief that since God is man, then man is God-like and women are less-than.

Riffat Hassan, a Pakistan-born professor of religious studies and humanities at the University of Louisville says that in Islamic, Jewish and Christian traditions there are three basic (and unwarranted) assumptions upon which the ideas of male superiority over women are founded: “first, that God’s primary creation is man, not woman, since woman is believed to have been created from man’s rib and is, therefore, derivative (As Carol Gilligan has said, “If you make a woman out of a man, you are bound to get into trouble); second, that woman was the primary agent of ‘Man’s Fall,’ and hence all ‘daughters of Eve’ are to be regarded with hatred, suspicion and contempt; and third, that woman was created not only from man but for man, which makes her existence merely instrumental.” From what I can see, none of this was Jesus’ idea. He did not see women as less-than after-thoughts. In fact, his friendships with women were revolutionary for that time. The more I study the teachings of Jesus, the more convinced I become that a foundational aspect of his teaching is the equality of women and men in God’s eyes, deserving of equal treatment. Look at the many women who followed him, sustained him. Look at the women who were shunned by all others but who Jesus touched and kissed and loved. Christian women preached and performed the Eucharist. It was to women that the arisen Christ appeared. After his death, when many Christians fled into the desert to set up Christian communities women outnumbered men 2 to 1.

I find particularly moving and plausible his special relationship with Mary, the apostle that is revealed in the Gospel of Mary. Jesus was love, not just love for some and not for others but…love…for all.

I think two thousand years ago, Jesus’ teachings, including and perhaps especially his respect for women, were so radical and so threatening to the Priesthood (Patriarchy) that they had to try to claim and cage and redefine him as “God in our [read male] image.” The formal church that grew up in the centuries following his death had to diminish the revolutionary content of his teachings in order to create a unified Christian church.

In my studies, I learned that 325 years after Jesus was crucified at the Council of Nicea, a gathering of Christian leaders, all men, decided by a show of hands and amidst bitter theological differences, what would be included as Biblical cannon and what was to be left out and decreed that Jesus was not only the Son of God but God himself.

In no way do I want to offend more traditional Christians, but if the content of the Bible was determined by a group of men (not all of whom agreed), then surely those seeking to know Jesus should not be demonized for looking outside the canons to what others (including women) had to say about Him.

I stopped my Bible study classes but was unwilling to renounce faith. I wanted to see if somewhere there wasn’t a perception of Jesus that reflected my intuition of him. This brought me to Elaine Pagels’s books on the Gnostics, along with various theologians’ and religious scholars’ interpretations of the Bible and the books of the early Christians, all of whom believed that experiencing the divine was more important than mere belief in the divine. I needed to move back into the reverence of metaphor, the language of the soul. That is where I know my faith wants to reside.

From time to time, there have been the awakened ones, conduits of perception, who, by fully embodying Spirit, have shown us the way—Jesus, Muhammed, Buddha, Allah, and others. Their messages have invariably been bare-bone-simple, remarkably similar and often embedded in metaphor, stories, and poems—all forms of art. Why? Because the non-linear, non-cerebral forms that are Art speak on a different frequency, they by-pass thinking, penetrate our defenses and jolt us open to consciousness.

For a while, I became a student at the Interdenominational Theological Seminary in Atlanta, the largest training center for African American ministers in the country. As a college drop-out who still has anxiety-ridden dreams of leaving a job unfinished, I relished being back in school and overwhelmed with homework: Biblical Exegesis, Feminist Interpretation, Systematic Theology. I was one of the few white students and, despite that, managed to come and go in anonymity—until Monster-In-Law came out and stirred up some excitement—the little old white lady in the back row is the one who kicked Jennifer Lopez’s ass!!

Over time, and, I feel, because I stepped outside of established religion, I was able to rekindle the spiritual experience that I’d been seeking. Some will say that because of all this I am not a true Christian. So be it. I feel like a Christian, I believe in the teachings of Jesus and try to practice them in my life. I have found Christians all over this country who feel as I do. They may not have been ‘saved’ yet they hum with divine spirit.

My faith is a work in progress (as am I) but I will plant my flag on the belief that God lives within each of us as Spirit (or soul). I like what Reverend Forrest Church says: “God is not God’s name. God is our name for that which is greater than all and yet present in all.” I believe that Christ was the personal incarnation of the divine wisdom in everything, including every form of spiritual expression.

Lots of folks go to church every Sunday and spend the rest of their time avoiding dealing with the question of consciousness. They try to pass time with pastimes, possessions, prestige. They think about God and talk about their religious beliefs but avoid experiencing Spirit. Thinking and experiencing aren’t the same. One happens in the head. The other is a flash, a rush of intuition that seems to permeate our entire being. That is what Jesus meant when he said that God is within us. That is what I am seeking, and I have found that since I have come to feel God within me, I experience less fear—of anything, including death. Sharon Salzberg, in her book “Faith,” explains it this way: “As our faith deepens, the ‘container’ in which fear arises gets bigger. Like a teaspoon of salt placed in a pond full of fresh water rather than in a narrow glass, if our measure of fear is arising in an open, vast space of heart, we will not shut down around it.”

Another result of my faith is that I have become a deeper, more embodied feminist. Helen LaKelly Hunt is right when she says in her book “Faith & Feminism,” that feminism is about fighting for the core beliefs and values of Christianity. “Religion and feminism are different expressions of the same impulse toward making life more just and whole.”


  William Bridges,  The Way of Transition, Perseus Publishing, p. 196

Gospel of Mary of Magdala: Jesus and the Woman Apostle” by Karen King of Harvard Divinity School

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  1. P.S. Jesus commanded the woman who was bleeding for 12 years to “Be Whole.” I wonder that Jesus released our souls when he went “below” and now, in rebirth, we are learning to reclaim them. Until then, we are not whole, and try to fill that “hole” with everything, including religion, but rarely with really experiencing God.

  2. I was overjoyed when I first heard you had become a Christian. Now that I have read about your experience however, I am not sure of your conversion. Many religions of the world speak of “many paths to the one true reality, God” yet Jesus said “I am the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father BUT BY ME”. So either He is the Lord, or he was a liar (and a stupid one for dying for His declaration) or a real nut-case, deluded. He also said “If you love me, follow my commandments.” That’s pretty clear. If you are following the precepts of human beings rather than the Lord, that is putting them ahead of Him. I hope you have no peace until you find the Prince of Peace. I hope He will present Himself to you in a way you can’t ignore. You are as valuable a human being as any on earth, so it makes me sad that I have defended you as being truly Christian when I find that you still have other gods before you. He also said Behold, I stand at the door and knock. Jane, all you have to do is open that door and let Him in. Real Christianity is the ONLY faith on earth that does not require works or any sacrifice on the part of the person, because the one perfect sacrifice has already been made on your behalf – by Him. Please accept this marvelous gift.

  3. Jane,
    I’ve very much respected you over the years but am sad to read this blog.
    You had said years ago you knew Jehovah’s witnesses were honest upright people and had the right religion. I find your lengthy pursuit for God in various religions unnecessary then. If you can see that in JWs that they have a unique lifestyle that is both rewarding and brings themselves to a close relationship with Jehovah God (the only living God) then why bother wasting your precious time and life chasing after man made religions that are only idealizations of ones opinions? These other religions do not guide their followers by Bible scriptures. The Bible is Gods word, not mans, it is penned by a group of men – but much like a secretary pens or now-a-days types a letter or document for their employer/boss, these Bible writers simply wrote what God instructed them too. It is not their instructions in the Bible, it’s Gods. There are so so many scriptures to prove these and all points needed to be 100% confidant in living your life in accord with the Bible. Jehovah’s Witnesses can study with you helping you gain the most precious thing any of us can attain:
    A REAL close relationship with our Heavenly Father Jehovah God, and the opportunity to see the fulfillment of Revelation 21:3,4. You Jane can receive everlasting life in paradise!
    Perhaps you can pray to God for help in discovering the real life.
    I write this with all due respect, but yet candor and determination to help.
    I know I’ve found the right way of life for me, I hope you will too!
    All the best.

  4. Jane,
    I was very pleased to find your beautiful website in answer to my question, “Is Jane Fonda a Christian?” I had heard that you had said a Christian prayer at a peace gathering several years ago which had upset some people. Jane, I respect you very much. You can only be a real person if you upset some people some of the time. I was in college, at Kansas State and heard you speak. You wanted us as students to THINK and not just accept what we were told and the world the way that it is. I have sometimes wondered why is it some brilliant people cannot “hear” the call of Jesus, the spiritual tug in their life. I am so happy that you have been very honest and open in hearing and questioning and responding to Jesus’ call. Jesus wants us to love him with our hearts and our minds. I am also very happy that so many people have written such beautiful and lovingly supportive comments to you. I have always felt that you have been unfairly treated with a lack of forgiveness for what happened during a very confusing and unjust war. I was happy at the news of your adoptive daughter and her blossoming into such a beautiful person. Congratulations on your recent lifetime achievement award, you certainly deserve it. May God continue to bless you, and may you live a long life. I think that if the world had more people like you the world would be a very different place. I think you are the greatest.

  5. Jane,

    I really appreciate your transparency about your faith here on your website. It seems, from your post, that some Christians have been judgmental and pushy toward you. I am really sorry for that. I do not believe that Jesus ever intends for His followers to treat anyone with disrespect or finger-pointing.

    I do think many people try to put Jesus/God in a box and make Him their own creation. That is when some pastors and congregations try to force their personal beliefs on others. I happen to have a very Godly pastor who reminds our congegration

  6. Sorry Jane- I did not finish my comment. I hit the submit button too soon!

    (Cont.) I happen to have a Godly pastor who reminds the congregation to see if what he telling us it true– by reading our Bibles/scripture for ourselves. That is really the only way to find the truth.

    I know that regardless of what others say, if you are open to Christ and continue to read God’s word— He will continue to lead you.

    I will continue to pray for you as you research and read the Bible for yourself.

    By the way— I do think God uses women in great ways to reach others! There were great women in the Bible and wonderful women today that He uses to draw others closer to Him!

    May you continue to draw closer to him and feel His love and presence in your life!

    God Bless!

    Amy

  7. Jane
    Hope all is well. I and my mother and father and aunt are all big fans. So happy for you!!

  8. Dear Jane, I heard the quote on TV two days ago that you quoted , “It’s more important to be interested than interesting”. What a revelation! Please go to http://www.passtheword.org. Read the works of Fenelon, Bohme, and Molinos. There is more! Bless!

  9. Dear Jane,
    Tonight I stumbled onto your page ABOUT MY FAITH and read it with great interest. I was moved by your words and on finishing, felt the desire to speak encouragement to you. However, in all honesty, instead of stumbling through inadequate words of my own, I would much rather simply share with you one who has been a great encouragement to me. I am referring to Dr. Ravi Zacharias. I do not know if you already know of him, but if not, it is my sincere hope that you will find an opportunity to check him out and that he might be an encouragement to you as well! His web address is http://www.rzim.org and you can also find many of his messages on YouTube. I just finished listening to one earlier and so I am including the link to it for you- http://youtu.be/b0GtdFuP-7c
    I hope you have the chance to listen and enjoy it.
    God bless you Jane.

  10. Dear Ms. Fonda
    I am so sorry that your early experience as a Christian was publicized against your will. Our relationship with God is the most personal and intimate and heartfelt and transformative experience/relationship we can possibly have. While God is love (patient, good, kind,-I Corinthians 13 ), and Jesus is the most “perfect” model of that, often we Christians aren’t.

  11. Hi Jane, I’m sorry that, as a celebrity, you are evidently besieged with religious folks trying to convince you to embrace all sorts of things as a Christian. I know it can be overwhelming. I have seen most of your movies through the years and it’s a great collection in many ways. You’re surely one of the more gifted actresses of recent decades. I understand that you had a bittersweet relationship with your dad, as portrayed somewhat in On Golden Pond. I was quite close to my dad but since we were so much alike, he did, with good intentions, try to purge weaknesses he saw in me, which he had largely overcome. That was a bit rough at times. In any case, before he died, we collaborated on a Christian daily devotional book. It is titled: The Anchor, by Steve and Tony Fortosis. You can find it easily on a site like Amazon. In its entirety it is a down to earth collection of spiritual thoughts and stories that illustrate our pilgrimage and life lessons learned. I would be honored if you’d consider reading it. God bless.

  12. Jane,

    Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17 is my life verse.

    I have been a Christian since about 12 years of age, but I spent many years just reading portions of the Bible. Though I have been a regular church goer for all of my life, until just a few years ago, I had not read through the entire Bible. Now, I am about to go through it for the third time. I love reading God’s word! I regret not having read the entire Bible in my earlier years.

    Romans 10:17 is true. When I began reading through the Bible, I did so with an open mind and heart. I did not start the process with any preconceived notions. I did not bring along the world’s wisdom. In the past, I had been guilty of looking at the world and attempting to impose the world’s wisdom on the Bible. If you allow the Holy Spirit to speak to your heart through the Bible, you must begin by applying God’s holy word to the world, not the reverse.

    I started reading in Genesis. Many preachers over the years had given me the impression that as Christians today, we should focus on the New Testament. It is true that the focus of the New Testament is for the church age, but the Old Testament prepares our hearts to receive the gospel of Christ. Everything in the Old Testament points to Christ. By beginning in the Old Testament, I began to learn more about God, the Father. I came to understand Him better.

    My faith increased the more I read. Through the Holy Spirit, my knowledge increased. My love for my Lord increased. I experienced a deeper closeness to God and a comfort and peace that was greater than I have had before.

    I believe in order to walk in close fellowship with Christ, it is necessary to see things as He sees them. He is God, after all. He created us. The purpose of our life down here is to worship and glorify Him.

    All we have to do to become a saved child of God is to to accept Jesus Christ, His son, as our Savior and Lord. To accept Him means to believe that He is God’s son, that He came to the earth to die for our sins and that He rose on the third day and ascended into heaven. Today He sits at the right hand of God, the Father, making intercession for us. Then we repent of our sins, and He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins. To repent means to change our minds and hearts, to change directions, to turn from our sinful lives and follow Christ. When we accept Jesus and repent of our sins, God sends the Holy Spirit to live in our hearts, and it is His job to point us to Christ and to help us grow in our spiritual walk with Christ. Once we are a saved child of God, we are promised a home in heaven when we die, to live forever with Christ!!

    To be a true follower of Christ, we cannot pick and choose what portions of Scripture we believe. The entire Bible is His word. Being a Christian is not about following a set of rules. If we have truly given our hearts to Christ, we want to live to please Him. The Ten Commandments are a guide to reveal to us our sin. We can never keep them without the help of the Holy Spirit. It is only through His guidance that we can live the Christian life.

  13. Wow! It is a long way down here to make a comment. I guess being famous has its drawbacks. The thing most people want has its hazards. Yet when you think about it, the most famous person in the world is just a pygmy compared to the privilege of being a child of God – “behold, what manner of love the Father has bestowed upon us, that we should be called the children of God; yet the world does not know (recognise) us.”
    I think Jane, even when you are famous, there is no need to complicate what should be simple. I didn’t need the diagnosis of the Council of Nicea to come to the conclusion of what is clearly stated in the New Testament – Jesus is God; otherwise, why would the disciples worship Him? Why would the Apostles state it so plainly Eg. Rom.9:5, 1Tim.3:16. When I hear jargon like – ““God is not God’s name. God is our name for that which is greater than all and yet present in all.” – And your own words, “I believe that Christ was the personal incarnation of the divine wisdom in everything, including every form of spiritual expression.” – Please, please, whatever happened to the simplicity of looking to God as my Heavenly Father, as Jesus taught me to do. Try going to sleep at night, speaking to your Heavenly Father – learn Psalm 23 again, and put it in terms of your Heavenly Father – it is our privilege to do this; this is what our Lord Jesus has opened for us – “through Whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.” May God bless you Jane.

  14. Sorry that I am getting to this blog post nearly six years late, but I just happened to be studying for a trivia tournament and stumbled across a question that required that I look up the Fonda clan on Wikipedia.

    Lo and behold I see that near the end of your entry it says you are now a Christian with a link to this post. I realize this blog was some time ago, and you no doubt have grown and evolved as we all do in our faith over this time. You may not be in the same place as reflected here, but I figured I might leave a comment in case you actually look at them……

    I totally relate to your expressed distaste for attempts to harden/flatten/demystify the Christian faith with rigidity of doctrine and an overly mental perspective. IMO, This distasteful approach is found where folks are either insecure in their own faith/doubt or are outright religionists – attempting to control and dominate others via spiritual abuse usually to gain either power, money, or both.

    I love Jesus. I am a BIG BIG fan. I am also a follower. What’s most important though is HIS love for me. He is God’s attempt to relate to us.

    I can see you have a good solid foundation in Feminism and do not want to cede ground by calling God by masculine pronouns or viewing a man, Jesus, as God. I can understand and respect that given the centuries of abuse by those wielding God or the name of Jesus in a manner to hurt or subjugate women.

    However, you might want to consider that Jesus spoke Aramaic, because that is what the people spoke in his area. For God to relate to us, he must appear in a form and speak in a way that we can understand. For that culture, at that time, God sending Jesus as a man was receivable by both men and women. The point is love of course. As you so eloquently stated, Jesus loved, encouraged, and promoted women which was very novel in the history of mankind. Had he come as a women and done this, it would not be as remarkable. Men can learn from a woman how to treat women, but how much more receivable is a man’s example for a man how to treat a woman. And there is no better example than Jesus.

    Throughout the early church women were widely seen in all roles in the non-institutional church. There were truly no roles forbidden to women. Once religion set in though, it was a different story which you rightly identify formally as the start of the Roman Catholic Church. All throughout history reformers attempt to break out of the stifling religion of the institutional church (Martin Luther, John Calvin, George Fox, John Wesley, etc…) up to our present time with the Pentecostal and Charismatic movements. Each time women move back closer to their rightful role alongside men as equals assuming the same types of roles. And not only do women feel unhindered and vital, but the faithful generally have a more personal, real, and direct relationship with God each time people try to break out of the man-made, religious, denominational, institutional forms.

    But I want to ask you to consider not throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Jesus is the key, the center, the relating one. He is how we can relate physically and mentally to a spiritual God. Our spirit can relate to God’s Spirit, but we are not disembodied spirits. We need Jesus.

    Sure, men (and women) have used the concept of God and the name of Jesus to oppress people throughout the history of the Christian movement sadly, but true faith and a relationship with Jesus is separate and distinct from the institutions that claim his name. In fact, I would go so far as to say that these institutions are anti-Christ. I don’t mean anything special by this term. I just mean the institutions themselves are opposite to the teaching of Jesus. Empire building is putting something man-made up in front of that which is God-made – namely the Kingdom of God.

    All forms of organizational power are an affront to the the only organization that matters – the Kingdom of God. When we are participating in the Kingdom of God is when we are loving people, relating to people, including people. Relationship is the key. Jesus showed this example to us. Our job as followers is to point people to Him as the model and savior of mankind. Jesus is love. Love is the Savior. Love is the only way this world of people will survive in eternity. Eventually by the end everyone will come to this worldview – Love.

    There are some people who love Jesus and follow Him in spite of the denomination they reside in, but the institution itself is religion and death no matter the denomination. Some denominations claiming the name of Jesus have less institutional forms than others, but to the degree that they are incorporated is the degree to which they put themselves against the Kingdom of God.

    The Kingdom of God is within you! Communicating, relating, and living amongst other followers of Jesus is very healthy, but you don’t have to “belong” to a “church”. You are the church! You don’t have to go to a building. But it is important to gather informally with other believers. Once an informal gathering of believers incorporates with the state, sets up a bank account, buys property, and/or starts creating bylaws or rules to govern itself, RUN do not walk to the nearest exit! This is a sure sign man is at work rather than God. Jesus did not give us this example.

    Jesus gathered with the believer and the unbeliever – in groups and individually – in homes and in public. But he never started a “synagogue” or a “government” or a “corporation”.

    I love the spirit of wonder that comes across in you through this blog post. Your desire to stay fluid, and your heart for women. Your opening comment about trying to become perfect is so common. The institutional forms constantly harp on behavior and performance. This is the natural outgrowth of institutions that are man-made. God doesn’t want you to change yourself to become perfect. If your eyes are on you, then you are bound to fail. Your eyes should be on Jesus. It’s about relationship NOT performance. It’s all who you know! That relationship will result in different performance. Not the other way around. Jesus is how we know with our head who God is. Our spirit can then relate to the true Spirit of God that was in Jesus.

    I would like to recommend for you:
    – Soren Kierkegaard especially “The Sickness unto Death”
    – Leo Tolstoy’s non-fiction work – not the least of which is “The Kingdom of God is within You”
    – Paul Tillich – “The Courage to Be”
    – Ivan Illich (my handle here) – Audio of the CBC interview of him is available on line in a couple places- “The Corruption of Christianity” and the preceding book by David Caley – “Ivan illich in Conversation”
    – And last bust certainly not least Michael Frost, Debra and Alan Hirsch – all their books are wonderful – those books authored together and separately. The one Debra and Alan Hirsch did together called “Untamed” is P.H.E.N.O.M.E.N.A.L.!!!

    …would love to enter into conversation if any of this interests you. God Bless and “good luck” in your journey!

  15. Hi Jane,
    I’ve been a Christian since I was 6 years old, and I’m now 56. The most profound experience I’ve ever had in my Christian walk was right after the birth of my son, Jason, 20 years ago. Our family of 6 was struggling financially with my husband’s start of a new business, and I remember getting up early to feed my baby. I couldn’t go back to sleep. I was worried sick about money and how we would make it with 4 children. While we were living in a custom home (my husband’s job was as a Vice President before he started his own business), I knew that right after the birth of a baby I certainly couldn’t go straight back to work.
    It had been a while since I had prayed or even involved God in my life, but there in the middle of my family room, at 4:30 am that morning, I got on my knees and told God,”I haven’t walked with you lately, but if you will help me with this problem, I promise you I will walk with you the rest of my life.”
    Being true to my word, I began a Bible study by myself every morning as the baby would take his morning nap. Something miraculous happened. While I was reading all the amazing stories of Jesus, I decided to read the first few pages of the Book of Acts. I was overcome with the story of the Holy Spirit falling on the people in the Upper Room, and I got on my knees as asked God to give me what those people had.
    I’ve never been the same since. And yes, I am So So grateful to know Jesus in a personal way and to understand his purpose (at least for Judy, his purpose) was to give me a model and way to understand God in human form. I love that and the love of Jesus has filled me in a life-changing way from that point forward.
    God bless you on your journey. Each person’s walk with God is a personal journey, and I try not to get into philosophical discussions, or right or wrong. I just know who Jesus is for me, and am so grateful I know Him.
    Love and Blessings to you, my friend!!

  16. Your words are beautiful and refreshing. It saddens me when humanity and even conventionaL Christianity reduces the Almighty, Glorious Alpha and Omega to a do and don’t list of how to know God. It’s best said for me in Romans 8…
    For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (‭Romans‬ ‭8‬:‭38-39‬ KJV)

  17. I’ve just read about your stand for women’s equality worldwide, and I thank you. I’m thankful for every voice that stands against the injustice and oppression of patriarchy. I’ve also recently read of your faith journey. I thought you might find this resource encouraging: http://www.amazon.com/God-Like-Meet-Separating-Traditional-ebook/dp/B00NP913IG/ref=pd_sim_kstore_1/186-1025916-9637454?ie=UTF8&refRID=1AQYN8J4Q5GZ857KRMYF

  18. I’ll bet Jane never actually reads all these comments. I mean, how could she? How could any one person who is already so active in many other causes have time to read through all the comments on each one of her posts here, plus on her other social media forums? In any case, I just want to add my hopes that Jane has not been discouraged by other believers. I’ve found my fellow Christians to be some of the worst enemies to my faith. I realize that’s ironic, and unfortunate, but I’m sure many of you know what I’m talking about and have also found that to be true. I continually have to remind myself that God is separate and distinct from those who may claim to represent Him here on earth… so much higher, purer, nobler, more loving, more forgiving, more gracious, more accepting, more righteous. I’m not sure why “the church” is often so messed-up in its representation of God, but I just try to focus on what is lasting and real instead of all the games that people play.

    As a young man I lusted for Jane Fonda. A lot. I know I’m not the only one who did. But I’m glad to say that as an older man I’ve matured and learned at least a few things about being self-controlled and about regarding women as precious and wonderful daughters of God, worthy of great admiration, honor and respect. Jane can still turn my head, for sure, but I’m even more attracted to her character now. I respect the fact that she has stood up for what she believes in, regardless of the enemies that made, and has done so wholeheartedly.

    I suspect that part of what drew Jane to her faith in Christ was the incredible forgiveness and acceptance offered there. I know that does for me! God must love Jane a lot, and even more than that, I believe He LIKES her — feels proud of her, admires what she’s overcome and accomplished in life, and can’t wait to welcome her home one day into His loving, healing embrace.

    God bless Jane Fonda.

  19. Jane first hello .
    After reading your post here my heart saddens .You seem to make your sex of being female as some how important to faith . The issue isn’t male or female it’s we all sinned and cannot undo the sin we have done .The crimes against God .Salvation is a free gift God who came in the flesh offers you and me.When your dead being female or male matters not on heaven or hell .1 john 1 9 If you confess your sin Jesus is just and faithful to forgive them all .So simple Jesus God paid your sins on the cross..The bible all you need but JANE You seem to be like most you want truth to be your way .The bible proves itself as truth .There no need for any other book or ideology ..It’s a love story God seek after us sinners and offering his love to all But few will accept His way The narrow way ..Jane many groups as do people take pieces of the bible and throw out the rest .Example Catholicism does this .They accept some of the bible then they run after themselves .Jane God does not allow many truths .He gave a book the bible .God love story Jesus said I am the only way only truth .Jane, Jesus will not accept your truth or my truth .I believe not because I think it is truth ,but because it is true .Jane a love story to us all .. http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0085/0085_01.asp The simple truth so easy a child can accept it .Jane don’t make it complex . 🙂

  20. Jane one last thing if something true why do you care if it male or female who said it .. Truth is truth .I tell this too people when I am out witnessing .I get well you are white and that’s white people truth .I says I don’t care what color Jesus was .The truth is all that matter .Escaping hell and receiving heaven is the point knowing the truth. . .Your sex or race is all detraction to cause one to reject biblical truth .To lose everything and by ones own free will.Too die spurning God pardon from our sins … This is what life is about to become born again .Jane Jesus on the cross was all about you be saved from hell .http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1048/1048_01.asp All about you .

  21. Hi Jane,
    First let me say how cool is to have this opportunity to speak with you. My wife Be Ke and I have always been huge fans. Thank you for all the hard work and the great art. Thank you for making us laugh and most importantly thank you for making us think. 🙂
    So I’ve never done anything like this before. I’ve never been at all interested in reaching out to any celebrity. But this morning was different. After my devotional time I felt impressed to Google “Jane Fonda Christianity”. I had no idea why at the time, but as I began reading about your spiritual journey it all became clear. You were describing the spiritual journey Be Ke and I have been on. Like you, we are Christians, but God has been leading us on a spiritual journey away from religion and dogma to a living, breathing exciting relation with Him. God is not only our guide, now He is our friend.
    Our spiritual journey really came to a head when we began traveling overseas as music ambassadors with our country rock band, Blended 328 goo.gl/dwIhSA . Our first stop… Pakistan. We showed up expecting a lot of hostility or at the very least a cold shoulder. I mean we were a country music group from Nashville–most of the band members hard core Christians–and we were about to play country music in a country with a 99% Muslim population– not to mention the home of Osama Bin Laden (for a short while anyway). We were totally freaked and expecting the worst. Man were we wrong. Everywhere we went from Karachi to Islamabad people were amazingly good to us. The people had beautiful spirits. We saw God in them. All of our erroneous beliefs about Muslims and about Pakistan were obliterated. Since then we’ve toured all over the world–Russia, Zimbabwe, Paraguay, Tajikistan, Cambodia–the list goes on. Rather its Buddhists in Cambodia or Catholics in Paraguay or the atheists we met in Russia— Everywhere we go we find beautiful people and we see God. You can see some video footage of our experiences at youtu.be/gE_qZQRXADA and http://www.oneworldcountrygirlglobal.org
    Anyway, I just wanted to saw thank you for sharing the story of your spiritual journey. It was really encouraging to Be Ke and I. And thank you for allowing us to share our journey with you. We wish you and your family many blessings in 2016. Keep up the good work 🙂

  22. Wow, I haven’t said “YES! YES!” this often in my life, outside of the bedroom.

    Reading this piece was an incredible happenstance. Your theological (& feminist) comments resonate with me deeply, and articulate my experience with loving clarity. Thank you for speaking out about your faith WHILE also wanting to be left alone to experience it. I really get that.
    I was raised Catholic and am mostly comfortable there. That’s ironic, given my rebellious nature. But the Mass can still deeply move & comfort me.

    Unfortunately, some evangelicals ostracize Catholics, and when an evangelical “friend” scrutinizes my beliefs, they almost always mischaracterize them. In their eyes, I have not been “born again” enough to be a “real Christian.” Similarly, when a fellow Catholic corners me into a political position I’m not on board with, “because you can’t be a good Catholic and…” (disagree with them), it’s all painfully alienating. It makes me wonder where I belong.

    Finally, my husband and good friend of 34 years has continued to lose his faith, just as I’ve increasingly found mine. That’s a significant struggle, and a lonely one at times, but so be it. We all have our paths.

    Thank you for sharing your journey. I think it’s far more universal than most people realize.

  23. Hi Jane,
    ​Thank you for taking the time to write back to me. You are so right about Vietnam. We participated in a cultural program in North Vietnam in December. We performed and gave female empowerment workshops in Hai Duong Province​, Ninh Binh Province ​and Hanoi. It was amazing. The people were so good to us. Since our last conversation we’ve had a huge opportunity come our way. UNESCO and UNDP have invited us to work with them to promote the 2030 agenda for sustainable development. Having these UN partners would give us the opportunity to expand our cultural work exponentially. I am 100% convinced that people to people cultural exchanges are a pathway to world peace, health and prosperity for all. One of the segments of our program is entitled, “The Heartland Initiative”. It involves reaching out to marginalized communities in small town America-The Heartland. Many of these towns are populated with the country music demographic. They are generally suspicious of the UN, have anti globalization sentiments and are very resistant to something new. We are hoping to change that.
    Of course as with many non-profits– funding is an issue. Our organization is no different. We can’t move forward unless we secure the funds to do so. We’re doing everything we can to raise money on our end but its not enough. I’m so sorry to mention this. I know celebrities are constantly getting bombarded with requests for help. But I remember the passage that says “You have not because you ask not”. So I’m asking. Would you happen to know anyone who has a passion for UN causes who might be willing to get involved with our work? Would you be open to connecting us with them? Again, I’m so sorry to ask. And I wouldn’t except that our situation is a bit desperate at the moment. I hope you’re not mad. You can find out more about our work at http://www.oneworldcountrygirlglobal.org . My email address is gabe@oneworldcountrygirl.com Thanks Jane!

  24. Jane, I will try to post a picture on your blog, but if it doesn’t work out, it’s a young man wearing a tee shirt that says, “Metaphors be with you”.

    Thanks for helping people understand that there are many forms of Christianity, and that all people need not conform to just one. I admire your perseverance in your quest, and your ability to articulate your well-reasoned and heart-felt faith.

  25. Hi Jane, I appreciate your diligent search to understand God. However, by your own account, you have been shown the truth, yet have rejected it and detoured into believing a false gospel that is more palatable to you. This is a very dangerous spiritual path to choose. It ends in eternal destruction of the soul.

    The original sin was Eve desiring to be “like God” by disobeying HIS command and eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, then giving that fruit to her husband (see Genesis 3). That sin is why Adam was placed in authority over Eve and they got put out of the Garden of Eden before they could eat from the tree of life.

    Clearly, a woman who worships knowledge and accepts the “feminist interpretation” of what God says is deceived – just like Eve. The lifelong quest for “equal rights” instead of worshiping the LORD God and accepting what HE says as the truth is committing the same sin as Eve. That’s her legacy to all of her “feminist” daughters.

    The Hebrew for the words God uses to describe women show that He views women as equal to men in value but not in function. The man was created to rule. The woman was created to help the man rule. But the order of authority is God over Christ over man over woman (see 1 Corinthians 11). This is for the woman’s protection. If this TRUTH confuses or angers or “doesn’t resonate with” you, then you need deliverance from the Jezebel spirit, which is a religious demon that counterfeits the Holy Spirit.

    THE FOLLOWING IS THE GOSPEL [Good News]; ANY OTHER GOSPEL IS FALSE:

    From then on Jesus began to preach, “Repent of your sins and turn to God, for the Kingdom of Heaven is near.” – Matthew 4:17

    JESUS: “The world’s sin is that it refuses to believe in Me.” – John 16:9

    John 19:30-37

    When Jesus had tasted it, He said, “It is finished!” Then He bowed His head and released His Spirit. It was the day of preparation, and the Jewish leaders didn’t want the bodies hanging there the next day, which was the Sabbath (and a very special Sabbath, because it was the Passover). So they asked Pilate to hasten their deaths by ordering that their legs be broken. Then their bodies could be taken down. So the soldiers came and broke the legs of the two men crucified with Jesus. But when they came to Jesus, they saw that He was already dead, so they didn’t break His legs. One of the soldiers, however, pierced His side with a spear, and immediately blood and water flowed out. (This report is from an eyewitness giving an accurate account. He speaks the truth so that you also can believe.)

    These things happened in fulfillment of the Scriptures that say, “Not one of His bones will be broken,” And again another Scripture says, “They will look on Him whom they have pierced.”

    1 Peter 3:18 – Christ suffered for our sins once for all time. He never sinned, but He died for sinners to bring you safely home to God. He suffered physical death, but He was raised to life in the Spirit.

    Galatians 1:1-24 NLT

    This letter is from Paul, an apostle. I was not appointed by any group of people or any human authority, but by Jesus Christ Himself and by God the Father, who raised Jesus from the dead.

    All the brothers and sisters here join me in sending this letter to the churches of Galatia.

    May God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace. Jesus gave His life for our sins, just as God our Father planned, in order to rescue us from this evil world in which we live. All glory to God forever and ever! Amen.

    There Is Only One Good News

    I am shocked that you are turning away so soon from God, who called you to Himself through the loving mercy of Christ. You are following a different way that pretends to be the Good News, but is not the Good News at all. You are being fooled by those who deliberately twist the truth concerning Christ.

    Let God’s curse fall on anyone, including us or even an angel from heaven, who preaches a different kind of Good News than the one we preached to you. I say again what we have said before: If anyone preaches any other Good News than the one you welcomed, let that person be cursed.

    Obviously, I’m not trying to win the approval of people, but of God. If pleasing people were my goal, I would not be Christ’s servant.

    Paul’s Message Comes from Christ

    Dear brothers and sisters, I want you to understand that the gospel message I preach is not based on mere human reasoning. I received my message from no human source, and no one taught me. Instead, I received it by direct revelation from Jesus Christ.

    You know what I was like when I followed the Jewish religion—how I violently persecuted God’s church. I did my best to destroy it. I was far ahead of my fellow Jews in my zeal for the traditions of my ancestors.

    But even before I was born, God chose me and called me by His marvelous grace. Then it pleased Him to reveal His Son to me so that I would proclaim the Good News about Jesus to the Gentiles.

    When this happened, I did not rush out to consult with any human being. Nor did I go up to Jerusalem to consult with those who were apostles before I was. Instead, I went away into Arabia, and later I returned to the city of Damascus.

    Then three years later I went to Jerusalem to get to know Peter, and I stayed with him for fifteen days. The only other apostle I met at that time was James, the Lord’s brother. I declare before God that what I am writing to you is not a lie.

    After that visit I went north into the provinces of Syria and Cilicia. And still the churches in Christ that are in Judea didn’t know me personally. All they knew was that people were saying, “The one who used to persecute us is now preaching the very faith he tried to destroy!” And they praised God because of me.

    Colossians 2:6-9 NLT

    And now, just as you accepted Christ Jesus as your Lord, you must continue to follow Him. Let your roots grow down into Him, and let your lives be built on Him. Then your faith will grow strong in the truth you were taught, and you will overflow with thankfulness.

    Don’t let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ. For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body. So you also are complete through your union with Christ, who is the head over every ruler and authority.

    John 3:1-21 NLT

    There was a man named Nicodemus, a Jewish religious leader who was a Pharisee. After dark one evening, he came to speak with Jesus. “Rabbi,” he said, “we all know that God has sent you to teach us. Your miraculous signs are evidence that God is with you.”

    Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth, unless you are born again, you cannot see the Kingdom of God.”

    “What do you mean?” exclaimed Nicodemus. “How can an old man go back into his mother’s womb and be born again?”

    Jesus replied, “I assure you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit. Humans can reproduce only human life, but the Holy Spirit gives birth to spiritual life. So don’t be surprised when I say, ‘You[ must be born again.’ The wind blows wherever it wants. Just as you can hear the wind but can’t tell where it comes from or where it is going, so you can’t explain how people are born of the Spirit.”

    “How are these things possible?” Nicodemus asked.

    Jesus replied, “You are a respected Jewish teacher, and yet you don’t understand these things? I assure you, we tell you what we know and have seen, and yet you won’t believe our testimony. But if you don’t believe me when I tell you about earthly things, how can you possibly believe if I tell you about heavenly things? No one has ever gone to heaven and returned. But the Son of Man has come down from heaven. And as Moses lifted up the bronze snake on a pole in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, so that everyone who believes in Him will have eternal life.”

    “For this is how God loved the world: He gave His one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life. God sent His Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through Him.”

    “There is no judgment against anyone who believes in Him. But anyone who does not believe in Him has already been judged for not believing in God’s one and only Son. And the judgment is based on this fact: God’s light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil. All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins will be exposed. But those who do what is right come to the light so others can see that they are doing what God wants.”

  26. Hi Jane,

    Could you please read about the way I understand God’s creation of the human race.

    First of all, it is true that God created the body of the first man from the dust of the ground and the body of the first woman from the man’s rib. However, it was the breath of life from God that made them both living, spiritual beings. Without this breath of life from God (the Spirit of God within them) they would only be dust and not truly alive. Also, both man and woman were created in the image of God-to be like God, especially in regard to God’s holiness and love. They were created to be free from attachment to this world, which is what holiness is all about (you talk about being made whole). Also they were created to love God and others with a pure and selfless love.

    Now the fact that the man was created from dust and the woman from the man’s rib does not make the man superior to the woman in any way! In fact, we can say that man is dust and woman is dust refined. Of course this is only in regard to their bodies, not their spirit or the image of God within them, which gives them their true value and human beings. In that respect they are the same. But as for the man being made from dust and they woman from dust refined, if anything, it could mean that men have a certain weakness, that women do not have. The heart of a man might be more vulnerable, making him more susceptible so spiritual weakness, because originally he lost part of his rib, which is close to and protects the heart. For this reason, it might be very hard for a man to live without a woman, but in many cases a woman can still be very strong and independent without a man (I especially wonder about your thoughts on this part).

    Anyway, I do believe that men and woman are equal in how they were both created as spiritual beings in the image of God, which is the true value of a human being. It is a mysterious thing though, that God could make them different but equal! Maybe it is because their differences are so superficial compared to the glory of what is inside (the Spirit and image of God)! I guess, there are many such things of God that are mysteries to us humans. They require faith in God to accept them. Another example is the trinity. There’s the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, but they are all one person and are all God. Are they equal? Each might have a different function, but they all work together for the same purpose! And, not one is any less God then they others.

  27. I meant to say that “not one is any less God than the others”

  28. Hey Jane, this is a wonderful entry. I really loved when you said “I think feminism is another way of teaching what Jesus taught, that we are all full human beings with the right to have our humanity seen and respected.” I love your views. // I was wondering what the address Is that I would use to send you a fan letter? I checked online but couldn’t find anything that I felt was accurate or updated. lol

  29. Jane, I am just reading this excellent post ion June 1 of 2017. Last night I was binge watching Grace & Frankie and came to a scene of you praying in a church. That reminded me that I have been praying for you for years and years! I LOVE the poem you shared here and believe with all my heart that one day we will all get to participate in the Dance. If your studies and experiences with small minded Christians made you feel flat, you were so wise to step back. I have known Jesus all of my life (I’m 62) and I can say without reservation that the sacred and holy does speak out through the arts and the Holy Spirit infuses us with joy. I am not a fundamentalist but am indeed an orthodox believer, finding great truth and much grace in the full counsel of both the Old and New Testiments. If you’d like to experience more joy, more excitement about God’s great and intimate love for you, Insuggest reading The Chrinickes of Narnia and the Space Trilogy by CS Lewis. You will see imagery of the Dance throughout these stories. Who am I to give unsolicited advice toy you?? Good question! Just a believer who noticed a softening and wonderment in your eyes after your divorce from Ted, and one who adores your acting. In addition to how fabulous you and Lily Tomlin are in Grace & Frankie, I adored your character in News Room. I think you are totally awesome! I may not agree with every political position you express’ but so what? Your tremendous talent mixed with your willingness to speak clearly on faith issues and your political activism are an inspiration to me and so many other. God bless you! From SC

  30. Dear Jane,

    I send this with the best of intentions, please take the time to listen,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgou9QDR4KM

    With Love,

    David

  31. Hi Jane
    I have been a great fan of your films work etc and as a Christian I was curious about your faith as I remember hearing about this backalong. I found your writing in this message really wonderful and although we may have a few differing opinions on a few matter what is so clear to me is your open honesty about your faith as a Christian. May you always dance in His presence and be bathed in His love.
    I have recently joined Netflix so have ‘found Grace and Frankie’ I have now watched all three series and eagerly await the next.
    Thank you for being an exceptional human being – God bless you always

  32. Dear Jane

    Thank you so much for being so honest about your faith. I too am a Christian and luckily while I was searching was turned on to the Lord because I experience true love in the words that someone said to me. They were simply that if I believed that Jesus was the Son of God and God raised him from the dead I’d be saved. That was it. Although I was raised Catholic I had never truly made this commitment. God just wants a deep relationship with us period and it comes through his son. I understand why you’ve been turned off by Christians who at times come across as self-righteous and judge mental. I’m so glad I met someone who told me the truth in love otherwise I would have looked elsewhere. Ghandi’s son admitted his Father realized Jesus was the only way and would have become a Christian if he had not met one! Anyways God is a big God and has a lot of room for all of out points of view. Many of us are filled with doctrine that has been passed down by self-condemnation. I find that as I ask the Holy Spirit to reveal truth to me He does. It’s a simple love relationship which I sense in your blog you reach for. We have been forgiven of all our wrongdoings 2000 years ago and one we’ve received Jesus as Lord God just wants to love on us and spend time blessing us with his amazing presence. Blessings to you my dear sister and may God continually shine his grace and truth through you.

  33. “The literalness with which I was expected to read and interpret the Bible seemed to simplify and flatten out what I wanted to experience as metaphor. ”

    Beautifully written and shared from the heart. The words in this message resound deep within my soul. For every skeptic and judge of your faith, there’s a “me too”… and I’m one of them.

    Here’s to the continued listening of the hum of the Divine. <3

  34. Dear Jane,
    Being 65 years young and growing up in North Carolina, and remember Daddy getting our first t.v. back in 1960, you eventually arrived in front of our little screen down the road, and have fond memories of seeing you on t.v. and the like as you remind me of my Aunt Lena who is in her late 80’s; still elegant with that thick southern draw which you would love I am sure if you heard it. It would seem males in your life have contributed to a lot of pain in your life as well as some good for sure, just like me. Growing up in red neck country where you are effeminate and called sissy at the age of 5 doesn’t make it easy for any young male. Most of the male images in my life caused me great sadness as I never measured up. The hardest thing to take in is when your Daddy tells you being the oldest male that you are not the male he intended to have as a son. That really hurts. But what I am trying to get at is that I found Someone who took this very very broken little boy at the age of 10, and gave him meaning and purpose and worth in this life, and that is Jesus. I remember crying out to Him when I was young when I was so bullied from school that I didn’t think I could make it, and He was there giving me the strength to go on. We can philosophize Him all we want and put Him into our own realities, but all I know is that He is real, and He has kept me these 65 years and His love and acceptance of me has never changed. You know, He tells us we have to simply come to Him as a little child. Well I did, and I still see myself as His child, and look forward to what is ahead and must not let the past overwhelm and try to destroy me. I heard you are coming to New Zealand, and would so love to see you, as I immigrated here by God’s grace 20 years ago working with a Christian humanitarian group called Mercy Ships. But my New Zealand pension is limited so won’t be able to fly up to Auckland and see you, but Jane remember that He loves you, and He loves me, and if we are loved by Him, nothing can separate us from His love. All my blessings and love in Him go out to you dear one, Gary and Molly ( my dear and beloved Basset Hound)

  35. Hello Jane!

    You look like a likable person, most especially at the beginning of “Barbarella.” The way you float about like that, and in the opening scene. 🙂 I know that was a “little” while ago, but I also felt this “liking” when watching a documentary where you mention admiring Marilyn Monroe’s breasts; which I saw just hours before writing this (I mean the documentary). You made it clear that you are not “gay” but nonetheless you could “Bbbbrrrrr,” into those breasts, (and I imagine you meant with your face). Well, I for one understood your meaning, and I was both amused and liked your saying so, because it just adds a little more proof about a point I have tried to make in places (even going into great length about the true nature of things) regarding female breasts not being lewd nor private, sexual objects. (But in a brainwashed society people can believe ANYTHING!) God created female breasts to be seen as “excellent ornaments.” See Ezekiel 16:7! Read also in the Song of Solomon where they are “sung” about as being the woman’s glory.(ALL in the Authorized King James Bible.) They are in fact MEANT to be seen, because they glorify the woman in giving her a feminine and stately/dignified appearance. Seeing them also helps emotionally soothe the man, being heart healing to him. God originally created the woman “perfect” and for the man to appreciate as being a reflection of the tender beauty of God’s heart. So today the devil gets the woman to hide those symbols of inner spiritual beauty. Her breasts being upon her heart in order to touch the heart of man.

    I have also some more serious things to say, although I have begun with a lighthearted attitude in speaking to you.

    I like it that you at least seem sincere in what you believe in. There are many who would say that you are not really a born again Christian. But I also believe this, because you do not confess Jesus Christ as God manifest in the flesh and being the only true God and eternal life. However, unlike many others I would not make any judgments regarding you in this matter. Because I know that even those that are born again, do not understand the gospel as it really is.

    Therefore I will briefly declare it to you.

    Firstly, before I go on. It is only logical that if you say that you are a believer in Jesus Christ, you must believe exactly all those things that he said. You must determine what is the true record regarding himself. I believe it is only the Authorized King James Bible that gives us his exact words. If you look at the history of how it was translated and by what authority, the hand of God can be seen in bringing to the English speaking world (into the most common tongue), an exact translation of the words of God. Many billions of people can be wrong, but the Scriptures are never wrong, but were given so that mankind can know and love the truth. There are no errors in the Authorized King James Bible.

    The gospel that I would encourage you to read is the gospel of John in the Authorized King James. If you can believe the words of Jesus Christ therein, and not what anyone else has taught you about him, then you will truly please God and enter into eternal life.

    Since it is impossible to explain everything concerning the gospel here in great detail (in just one online post), I am not going to do so except to tell you the most basic facts concerning the gospel, or as simply as possible. You will not find this properly understood or declared by preachers all around this world, although it ought to be obvious to every born again Christian.

    The gospel is this: God has come in the flesh in none other than the person of Jesus Christ. (All born again Christians believe this.) But for what purpose did he come and for what reason did he die? (This is what the church worldwide has not clearly understood.) His purpose was to “take away” sin, and NOT for him to “pay for sin” or be “penalized for us.” Because the sins of ignorance are of the flesh, and not of the spirit of man and woman (in being not willful or done in the knowledge of the truth), hurt the heart of God to a degree that is inconceivable to us, God therefore needed an offering or provision for himself or for his hurt emotions, so that he might not unjustly in his wrath against sin, send all of mankind into hell and everlasting punishment. Thus Jesus Christ offered himself up to God as representing mankind as perfect in himself, and as without sin to God. And thus it is true: “Behold, the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” (John 1:29)

    God is thus saying to the world in its unwilling ignorance, in Jesus Christ: “I judge you to be without sin. You are reconciled to me.” However, in saying this, God says also to the world, that in this knowledge they should be reconciled to himself, in behaviour, otherwise they cannot by willfully sinning after knowing the truth, be innocent anymore. This therefore does not mean that everyone is innocent and going to heaven. For those that see this Light and reject it, declare themselves truly guilty of sin, being the children of the devil, and thus condemn themselves to everlasting punishment.

    You have not heard before that Jesus Christ died to prove our innocence to God. (Because God has called me to reveal this truth. And it is nothing other than what is already written in the Scriptures.) Now this, namely, Jesus dying to prove our innocence to God, is what it means that Jesus died for our sins. This is what it means that Jesus bore our sins away. Whereas it is falsely taught by mainstream “Christianity” that all people already, without exception, are truly guilty of sin, deserve death and hell, and are on their way into everlasting punishment, “until” they accept Jesus Christ. This is an abominable lie, preventing the church of God universally, from proclaiming the truth perfectly to the world. Thus some are hindered from entering into the kingdom of God because they are repelled by a false “gospel,” which is really just condemning them as “sinners.” Whereas the whole purpose of Jesus Christ coming in the flesh, dying and rising from the dead to become high priest, is to prove that our sins are really done in innocence, and that therefore we are not really guilty of sin. Jesus Christ did this by perfectly obeying God, being himself without sin, in the flesh of mankind, (thus representing us to God as we would be if we were not victims of sin), so that God could see us all sinless in Jesus Christ and accept us in him.

    God only requires us therefore to believe on Jesus Christ. For nothing we do in our own strength can prove our perfect innocence to God (or “justify” us), since only in Jesus Christ are we proved innocent in God’s eyes (or are “justified”), and only by him are we therefore accepted by God.

    This is the GOOD NEWS!

    May God truly bless you. And if you choose to pay attention to what I have written here, or inquire, there is nothing that I cannot explain, especially regarding the gospel. (Because it’s not I, but Christ in whom I trust, that speaks.)

  36. Jane, reading through this post made me thinking about my struggles about religion and things associated with it, as well as faith. This has always been a problem – having faith and following the dogmas of religion, especially in Russia, where the churches are the second government. Thank you for this post. It gives food for thought.

  37. Jane, I read this old blog and I want to tell you, I am a Catholic educated in Catholic Schools, my mother was a great Christian, I am not like her, my sisters are, but just like you I feel God with me, what you express It is what Faith is and you accompany it with Charity with your advices, your time and your money that you dedicate to important things such as climate change now, you radiate your inner peace, and you are filled with God.💕💕

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